<div dir="auto">Hi Susan, congratulations on all you have learned and your success. </div><div dir="auto">A suggestion:</div><div dir="auto">To find out how a feeler gauge should “feel”when it is pulled thru, take a micrometer and set it for, say 10 thousandths. Then take the same size feeler gauge and pull it by the micrometer. </div><div dir="auto">That is how it should feel when setting valves. </div><div dir="auto">BTW any size will work. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And I can’t trim this thread, sorry. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Mac Kirkpatrick </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:51 John Chevalaz via PAAirheads <<a href="mailto:paairheads@casano.com">paairheads@casano.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif"></div>
<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif">congratulation, you are now "one with the valves".</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif">and in 2 hours.</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif">you can never be to ocd / hypervigilant / whatever in working on your bike.</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif">the next time will be that much easier and or when u attend another airhead event you can discuss what u learned.</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif">hve fun and ride safe</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif">john in the valley<br></div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif"><br></div>
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On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:58:57 AM EDT, <a href="mailto:susan.quitzau@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">susan.quitzau@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:susan.quitzau@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">susan.quitzau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div id="m_2789726386335280780ydpdab2ee0fyiv9887707359" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Disclaimer: The following may make you laugh or shake your head or simply fill up your time…</span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Thanks to all your help, I have “done it”; adjusted valve clearances on my 1984 R65LS.</span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Most of my confusion resolved while hands-on actually following and applying the guiding instruction but I will note that the greatest issue I had/have is lack of confidence; not lack of ability. Plus, I am neurotic!</span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Aiming to be a perfectionists (What the hell? I thought I gave that up a long time ago!), I strive for “exact” measurements, instruction following, etc. Clearly, sometimes the obvious is not so when hypervigilant.</span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Well, in addition to my lack of experience and lack comfort from repetition, is my discovery of conflicting information that bumps my confusion and second guessing to the next level of anxiety.</span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">For instance:</span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></p><ol style="margin-top:0in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" type="1" start="1"><li style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Attempting to Identify the compression (closed) stroke/cylinder while watching and waiting for valves to open and close on either cylinder while “bumping/turning” rear wheel and peering into small diameter hole looking for OT mark was a challenge for me and gave me the initial angst.</span></i></li></ol><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> <b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">What I found as my most helpful (ah ha!) in all that I read and subsequently experienced was simply that when OT was viewed through the window, <u style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">the head with rotatable push rods is the on the compression stroke</u>! Easy peasy as long as the push rods are not bent or otherwise resistant.</b></span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></b></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> Also, after adjusting the left cylinder valve clearances, I simply used the tire stem as my guide to rotating the rear wheel 360 deg and in quick order, found OT and confirmed the right cylinder was in compression stroke by the ease of which I could turn the push rods.</span></i></b></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></p><ol style="margin-top:0in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" type="1" start="2"><li style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Feeler Gauges with Go-No-Go are cool. However when one has not used feelers with a range of measurement (not just singular metric and inch measurement stamps) and nothing tells you that the initial insertion is the first number in the range and the step up in size is the end range; what should be obvious and logical isn’t always to the conscientious mind. (that clearly over thinks things! Guilty!)</span></i></li></ol><p style="margin-left:0.25in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></p><ol style="margin-top:0in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" type="1" start="3"><li style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Add further confusion to this already confused <s style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">girl</s> New-to-valve adjusting person – trying to make sense of advice to set intake clearance to .10 and exhaust clearance to .20 <u style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">or</u> in the same instruction, written otherwise as .006” intake and .010” exhaust <u style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">or</u> even “intake 6mm” and “exhaust 8mm”. Oh boy.</span></i></li></ol><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></p><p style="margin-left:0.5in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">And Then more uncertainty abounds by checking the R65LS manual which says after first 600 miles the valve clearances are: “Inlet: 0.05 mm (0.002 in) Outlet 0.20 mm (0.008 in). </span></i></p><p style="margin-left:0.5in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Info on measurements are close but varied enough that when you don’t know how much the small differences matter, it dwindles confidence and or delays completion. (add the mystique of German perfection and runs like a Swiss clock vs it’s all an illusion … sorry, don’t mind me…that’s subject for another discussion </span></i><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Wingdings">J</span></i><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> )</span></i></p><p style="margin-left:0.5in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">And so, I made my best first attempt at adjusting my airhead valves whereas the best part isn’t just that I have the satisfaction of having done it, but that I have a better understanding of how & why to do it and am not so reluctant in re-doing or re-checking next time.</span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><i style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">For those who might be wondering – No, I did not loosen and retorque the rocker shaft end play nuts. I’m leaving them well enough alone. The nuts are tight with no excessive or up & down movement in the rockers.</span></i></p><p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" dir="auto"> </p><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><p style="margin-left:0.5in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </p></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><p style="margin-left:0.5in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </p></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><p style="margin-left:0.5in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </p></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><p style="margin-left:0.5in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </p></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><p style="margin-left:0.5in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </p></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><p style="margin-left:0.5in;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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