<div dir="auto">In the winter I put a theramarest standard foam pad in my sleeping bag. I have only tested it into the 20s with a 20 degree bag, but I was toasty backing this February with that setup.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Last summer I bought a Big Agnes 25"x72" inflatable mattress with their pumphouse dry-bag pump. It rolls up to about 4" by 10" and when slightly underinflated it cradles you and is a wonderful improvement. The dry-bag works like a parachute trapping air. You capture air in the bag and force it into the mattress through a press-on fitting. It weighs very little, serves two functions, and requires no electricity. I slept on it for about 15 out of 17 days in CO and NM and it was very comfortable. They are about a hundred dollars...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Will</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 11:18 AM horacepro--- via PAAirheads <<a href="mailto:paairheads@casano.com">paairheads@casano.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><font size="2">I had a constant problem with sliding off those mattresses. It might have been okay if they would have fit in the pocket of my sleeping bag, but they are too large for that. (I suppose I could have cut them down to fit. Never tried that,)</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">An Intex air mattress fixed that for me. I bought a 12-volt air pump for it. After fitting an appropriate power outlet to my bike I was able to inflate it easily. It was comfortable -- bumpy ground and small rocks were no longer an issue. It stayed inflated all weekend. It provided all the insulation required. Most important, I did not wake up next to it on the ground.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">It packed up no bigger than the ThermaRest. Quite a bit heavier, but that is why motorcycles have engines.<br>
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<div><font size="2">My wife (the same wife who told me I didn't have enough motorcycles, and got me to buy one with a sidecar) wasn't happy enough with a queen-size air mattress. So we bought an Intex queen-size air bed -- 21 inches high! It took up no more square footage than the air mattress, and there was adequate headspace in the tent for it. Yet more comfortable and much easier to get out of. Inflated quite quickly enough, thank you.<br>
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<div><font size="2">Still bigger to pack, but my sidecar rig has the luggage capacity. And since my wife won't ride pillion anymore, when she camps with me the sidecar is her ride and the airbed comes with.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Yes, you can puncture both air mattresses and airbeds. They are pretty tough, but I have had punctures. Even a slow leak can leave you grounded come morning.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">But you can also patch them -- patches are part of the kit. Finding a hole can be challenging. The best way is to cover the thing in soapy water and look for bubbles.<br>
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<div><font size="2">Pluses and minuses. Pluses and minuses. But I am not going back to ThermaRests. If you are backpacking, okay. A not-great compromise to save weight. But on a motorcycle that thin advantage goes away. I'm sticking with something that inflates.<br>
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