From beemer56bob at verizon.net  Mon Jul  1 17:13:36 2019
From: beemer56bob at verizon.net (bob Katz)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:13:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Fwd: Re: Duke Travel Enquiry
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For future moto heads. Looking to the iom classic August 2020?

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 On?Monday, July 1, 2019,?Nikki?<info at duketravel.com>?wrote:

Hi?
We will not have the village for the Classic TT, we only have this for the main TT in June. The hotels which would be available will be on the promenade, these will be released after the Classic TT this year.?
If you would like to keep up to date with news and special offers, sign up to our newsletter here.
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Duke Travel trading as iomtt Travel is a member of the Travel Trust Association ?TTA? membership number Q6064a.
Registered Address: Champion House, Ballafletcher Farm Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. IM4 4RL

On July 1, 2019, 1:47 PM GMT+1 beemer56bob at verizon.net wrote:

Hi Nikki our group is more interested in coming to classic. About 8 people as of now but that might grow. As soon as you can book we will send deposits. The village looks like a prime spot if that?s where you will be for the classic. Thx bob

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 On?Monday, July 1, 2019,?Nikki?>?wrote:

Hi
I'm following up with you as I haven't heard back from you in a while.?
I'll be closing this travel enquiry on my side, but you can reopen and continue at any given moment if you find you need further support.
Just let us know!
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Nikki Golding?|?Duke Travel | Travel Consultant?E: info at duketravel.com?T:?+44 (0) 1624 640 044 W: www.duketravel.com
Duke Travel trading as iomtt Travel is a member of the Travel Trust Association ?TTA? membership number Q6064a.
Registered Address: Champion House, Ballafletcher Farm Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. IM4 4RL

On June 27, 2019, 8:04 PM GMT+1 info at duketravel.com wrote:

Hi ,??
I am just following up on our recent correspondence?with regards to your recent enquiry.?
Please let me know if I can provide any further assistance in arranging the trip for you.?
If you would like to keep up to date with news and special offers, sign up to our newsletter here.
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Nikki Golding?|?Duke Travel | Travel Consultant?E: info at duketravel.com?T:?+44 (0) 1624 640 044 W: www.duketravel.com
Duke Travel trading as iomtt Travel is a member of the Travel Trust Association ?TTA? membership number Q6064a.
Registered Address: Champion House, Ballafletcher Farm Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. IM4 4RL

On June 25, 2019, 2:55 PM GMT+1 info at duketravel.com wrote:

Hi?
The iomtt village is only here for the TT at the same site as this year on Victoria road in Douglas.?
Are you looking to attend this years classic TT or next years classic TT??
If you would like to keep up to date with news and special offers, sign up to our newsletter here.
Kind regards
Nikki Golding?|?Duke Travel | Travel Consultant?E: info at duketravel.com?T:?+44 (0) 1624 640 044 W: www.duketravel.com
Duke Travel trading as iomtt Travel is a member of the Travel Trust Association ?TTA? membership number Q6064a.
Registered Address: Champion House, Ballafletcher Farm Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. IM4 4RL

On June 24, 2019, 4:00 PM GMT+1 beemer56bob at verizon.net wrote:

Hi Nikki is this the tt or the Manx. Where is the village at. Website I could look at. Please. Thx

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 On?Monday, June 24, 2019,?Nikki?>?wrote:

Hi?
We have the village prices now, it is from ?250 per room per night during race week.?
Let me know if you are looking to book!
If you would like to keep up to date with news and special offers, sign up to our newsletter here.
Kind regards
Nikki Golding?|?Duke Travel | Travel Consultant?E: info at duketravel.com?T:?+44 (0) 1624 640 044 W: www.duketravel.com
Duke Travel trading as iomtt Travel is a member of the Travel Trust Association ?TTA? membership number Q6064a.
Registered Address: Champion House, Ballafletcher Farm Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. IM4 4RL

On June 21, 2019, 4:34 PM GMT+1 beemer56bob at verizon.net wrote:

Thx Nikki as soon as u have details for the tt and the vintage races please notify me. We will book again with you. ?Regards bob

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 On?Friday, June 21, 2019,?Nikki Golding?>?wrote:

Hi?
Thats great, if you do require any further help booking a trip then please let us know and we will be happy to help.?
If you would like to keep up to date with news and special offers, sign up to our newsletter here.
Kind regards
Nikki Golding?|?Duke Travel | Travel Consultant?E: info at duketravel.com?T:?+44 (0) 1624 640 044 W: www.duketravel.com
Duke Travel trading as iomtt Travel is a member of the Travel Trust Association ?TTA? membership number Q6064a.
Registered Address: Champion House, Ballafletcher Farm Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. IM4 4RL

On June 16, 2019, 11:34 PM GMT+1 beemer56bob at verizon.net wrote:

Hi Nikki I signed up for ur newsletter the group is very interested in another package deal like we had. ?Probably more so for the vintage races in August but would also consider the tt again since we had a great time ? We have been talking about ?going to Scotland and or England before the races too please forward any info you have. ?We really like the comis hopefully you will return thx. Bob

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 On?Monday, June 3, 2019,?Nikki Golding?>?wrote:

Hi?
Thank you for your email and great to hear you are having a good time on the island all be it the weather hasn't been on our side.?
Are you looking for a similar package as to what you have booked this year??

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Duke Travel trading as iomtt Travel is a member of the Travel Trust Association ?TTA? membership number Q6064a.
Registered Address: Champion House, Ballafletcher Farm Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. IM4 4RL

On June 2, 2019, 11:10 PM GMT+1 info at duketravel.com wrote:

Thank you for contacting Duke Travel
As the Isle of Man TT 2019 is currently taking place (24 May to 07 June), a response to your TT 2020 enquiry may be delayed.?
We will endeavor to respond to you as soon as possible.?
If you are contacting us regarding a TT 2019 booking, please be assured that emails are being monitored?and are taking priority. If you prefer to speak to an agent call us +44 (0) 1624 640044.
We thank you for your patience at this busy time.?
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From beemer56bob at verizon.net  Mon Jul  8 05:50:39 2019
From: beemer56bob at verizon.net (Bob Katz)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 05:50:39 -0400
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Thanks to George for the laff 

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From bsafr at aol.com  Fri Jul 12 13:02:23 2019
From: bsafr at aol.com (bsafr at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:02:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Look what I found in my Gearbox...
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Attended my first INOA Ralley this year which was held in Brooklyn, MI. Glad I didn't try to ride home with Pat or Frank - they would've been pissed at me (or would have just abandoned me) when my bike broke down.? Only put just over 200 miles on the bike while at the meet. The following weekend while heading over to Orlandos for a breakfast ride, I only made 27 miles before my gearbox failed. That's a story for another time. Looks like I would have only made it to about Altoona on the way out, or short of the Ohio border on the way home.

First time in a Norton gearbox for me, so may contact some of you for help on reassembly.

Brian

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From bsafr at aol.com  Sat Jul 13 12:23:17 2019
From: bsafr at aol.com (bsafr at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Fwd: Level Three Norton Gearbox Repairs
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Greetings Boys,

As some of you know, I suffered a gearbox failure on my Norton after returning from the INOA Ralley in Michigan. A call to Sellers Recovery and Repair Service fetched me from Upper Black Eddy to the Level Three Motorcycle Repair workshop here in bucolic Penns Woods. The initial diagnoses from such mechanical savants as Dan Sellers, Dave Benkhen and Bob Katz indicated layshaft bearing - whatever the hell THAT was.? Ive never been inside a Norton gearbox and the only motorcycle transmission Ive done anything with is simply removing the entire thing from a T140. Having been encouraged by some folks at the First Sunday breakfast telling me that "its not a big deal" and Frank Mohr relating that he once rebuilt a transmission in a parking lot in Daytona with a pocket knife, I figured how bad can this be? Bob Katz tried to talk me into removing the whole gearbox, but that sounded like a lotta work.

So away I went. My first obstacle was removing the clutch operating mechanism lockring. I made a tool from a 1 1/2" pipe nipple that did the trick. Next, I got all but ONE of the inner case mounting nuts off - but Dan had a thin wall socket that fit perfectly. I thought I could just get the mainshaft nut off with a cheater bar, but no luck - so resorted to a pneumatic impact wrench - et voila. I started to withdraw the cogs and removed the spindle that the selecting forks were mounted on. After withdrawing the cogs, layshaft and forks,? I immediately saw the pile of ball bearings in various stages of disintegration piled up in the case well where the layshaft bearing should have been. The inner bearing race was attached to the end of the layshaft. The outer race remained in position. I got a magnet and fished out all the metal shards, then flushed the case several times with brake cleaner to debride the cavity until I couldn't find anymore loose metal bits or metal powder. ?

Now I had to remove the outer race. Heating it and pulling it with a bearing puller was the preferred method, or if the gearbox was removed it was even easier.? I fashioned a bearing puller of sorts with a gear puller and was able to get the race out after two or three slaps with a large socket as a dead weight on the threaded shaft.? I was aware that there could be a crack in the case where the sleeve bearing and layshaft bearing were only milimetres apart. Clever design. And you guys think Im level three???? I flushed the race cavity and used the magnet and cleaned out the debris. I got a small mirror and inspected the outer race mounting surface. I found a small crack. ?

Attached are a few pics - my initial view of the ball bearings, the worn kickstart pawl, the small crack and some of tools I used.? So now Im torn - ball bearings vs. roller bearings. Most say roller bearings - but two people I know and respect tell me ball bearings - so Im tempted to stay with ball bearings and reduce the need to adjust layshaft end float. Besides, I think they are now made in Argentina instead of Portugal (like that's an improvement????).? Regardless 45 years of service aint bad - Ill be dead in 20 - or at least probably not riding the Norton. The more critical question is about the crack - remove the gearbox and repair?? Then I probably owe Bob Katz a sandwich or something.

Brian



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From beemer56bob at verizon.net  Sat Jul 13 15:23:03 2019
From: beemer56bob at verizon.net (bob Katz)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 19:23:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [dvnr] Fwd: Level Three Norton Gearbox Repairs
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I will hold u to that Sammy offer and enjoy every little bite. Lol

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 On?Saturday, July 13, 2019,?Brian Safer via DVNR?<dvnr at casano.com>?wrote:

Greetings Boys,

As some of you know, I suffered a gearbox failure on my Norton after returning from the INOA Ralley in Michigan. A call to Sellers Recovery and Repair Service fetched me from Upper Black Eddy to the Level Three Motorcycle Repair workshop here in bucolic Penns Woods. The initial diagnoses from such mechanical savants as Dan Sellers, Dave Benkhen and Bob Katz indicated layshaft bearing - whatever the hell THAT was.? Ive never been inside a Norton gearbox and the only motorcycle transmission Ive done anything with is simply removing the entire thing from a T140. Having been encouraged by some folks at the First Sunday breakfast telling me that "its not a big deal" and Frank Mohr relating that he once rebuilt a transmission in a parking lot in Daytona with a pocket knife, I figured how bad can this be? Bob Katz tried to talk me into removing the whole gearbox, but that sounded like a lotta work.

So away I went. My first obstacle was removing the clutch operating mechanism lockring. I made a tool from a 1 1/2" pipe nipple that did the trick. Next, I got all but ONE of the inner case mounting nuts off - but Dan had a thin wall socket that fit perfectly. I thought I could just get the mainshaft nut off with a cheater bar, but no luck - so resorted to a pneumatic impact wrench - et voila. I started to withdraw the cogs and removed the spindle that the selecting forks were mounted on. After withdrawing the cogs, layshaft and forks,? I immediately saw the pile of ball bearings in various stages of disintegration piled up in the case well where the layshaft bearing should have been. The inner bearing race was attached to the end of the layshaft. The outer race remained in position. I got a magnet and fished out all the metal shards, then flushed the case several times with brake cleaner to debride the cavity until I couldn't find anymore loose metal bits or metal powder. ?

Now I had to remove the outer race. Heating it and pulling it with a bearing puller was the preferred method, or if the gearbox was removed it was even easier.? I fashioned a bearing puller of sorts with a gear puller and was able to get the race out after two or three slaps with a large socket as a dead weight on the threaded shaft.? I was aware that there could be a crack in the case where the sleeve bearing and layshaft bearing were only milimetres apart. Clever design. And you guys think Im level three???? I flushed the race cavity and used the magnet and cleaned out the debris. I got a small mirror and inspected the outer race mounting surface. I found a small crack. ?

Attached are a few pics - my initial view of the ball bearings, the worn kickstart pawl, the small crack and some of tools I used.? So now Im torn - ball bearings vs. roller bearings. Most say roller bearings - but two people I know and respect tell me ball bearings - so Im tempted to stay with ball bearings and reduce the need to adjust layshaft end float. Besides, I think they are now made in Argentina instead of Portugal (like that's an improvement????).? Regardless 45 years of service aint bad - Ill be dead in 20 - or at least probably not riding the Norton. The more critical question is about the crack - remove the gearbox and repair?? Then I probably owe Bob Katz a sandwich or something.

Brian


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From G_ROETENBERG at msn.com  Sat Jul 13 19:29:30 2019
From: G_ROETENBERG at msn.com (GEORGE)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:29:30 +0000
Subject: [dvnr] Riverside Bar next Sunday
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Norton Riders,


July 21 meeting is at 11AM at the Riverside bar in Easton Pa.  Address is 5801 S Delaware Dr, Easton, PA 18040.  It is a nice ride up the Delaware river.  Hopefully the weather will be good.

Next month is at  Chris Owen's cabin in the Poconos.  Hopefully the Road Captain will email out a route for those wanting a group ride.

Want to say that Brian got lucky with his layshaft bearing failure.  It can lock up your rear wheel.  If you don't know if yours is OK then replace it.  I use the roller bearing and shims.  Has worked OK on three rebuilds.  Good instructions on Old Britts website.

I did finally find the DVNR banner in my basement.

George


From beemer56bob at verizon.net  Sun Jul 14 18:18:11 2019
From: beemer56bob at verizon.net (bob Katz)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 22:18:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Crack
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Well Brian if u choose to remove it u are welcome to use garage mahal to clean and buff up the case..... after that tasty lunch. ?Fish and chips at the union jacks would be appropriate eh mate. ??


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From: beemer56bob at verizon.net (Bob Katz)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 18:18:56 -0400
Subject: Crack
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From prwells954 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 15 14:04:56 2019
From: prwells954 at gmail.com (Patrick Wells)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:04:56 -0400
Subject: [dvnr] Patrick Wells
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Hello Dan,

I doubt that you remember me. I own a '72 Combat. I brought it to not last
spring's Washington crossing event, but the 2018 event. It's been that
long! Well I still own the Norton, recently took apart cleaned carb, put a
center stand on it. Had Classic cycle give it the once over while away at
work. Yet still, she is stubborn( really stubborn to start). I would like
to pick your brain sometime about what I can do to make this machine a
little more fun and a little less frustrating. If you have the time. Also,
either way, I owe you dues for 2019!

Thank you so much, Patrick Wells

954 646 8849
34 Cherokee Road
New Britain, PA 18901


From G_ROETENBERG at msn.com  Fri Jul 19 19:57:38 2019
From: G_ROETENBERG at msn.com (GEORGE)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 23:57:38 +0000
Subject: [dvnr] Alternate Meeting Location and Time because of Excessive Heat
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Norton Riders,

Sunday's forecast is 100 degrees with heat index of 110.  I am using my executive power to switch meeting location and time at the last minute even though I will probably receive nasty emails.  You guys can still go to Riverside Bar in Easton if you want.  I won't be there sweating.  I would like to have the meeting but I think the best way is to do it early in the morning.

Now a breakfast meeting Sunday July 21 at 9AM at Orlando's Caf?, 310 Rt 31 S, Hopewell, NJ 08525.  Hope everyone understands.

George