From dsellerspa at verizon.net Fri Jan 4 20:06:05 2019 From: dsellerspa at verizon.net (Daniel Sellers) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 01:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [dvnr] 2018 Christmas Party Review and notice for January Meeting References: <1115287238.6488952.1546650365477.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1115287238.6488952.1546650365477@mail.yahoo.com> DVNR Members I hope you enjoy my reflections of our December 15 Christmas Party in the attachment. We hope to see you at the next meeting at Bob and Tari Norum on January 20 at 11AM. For those of you who didn't pay any dues for 2018, Goodbye. Cheers Dan? Sellers DVNR Treasurer/Membership Secretary -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DVNR Christmas Party 2018 version 2.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 329459 bytes Desc: not available URL: From SgtNorton at comcast.net Wed Jan 9 09:02:22 2019 From: SgtNorton at comcast.net (Frank Mohr) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 09:02:22 -0500 Subject: [dvnr] Fwd: Norton's at Modern Classic show. References: Message-ID: <42D920D2-6406-4C03-8F9B-1640CFAE0668@comcast.net> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: albert hartman > Date: January 9, 2019 at 8:29:03 AM EST > To: Dan Sellers , Frank Mohr > Subject: Norton's at Modern Classic show. > > We have zero Nortons for the Martin Modern Classics show in March. Please get the word out to our Norton group that we are actively looking for a few great bikes. What do you have? From bsafr at aol.com Wed Jan 9 13:10:31 2019 From: bsafr at aol.com (bsafr at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 18:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [dvnr] Fwd: Norton's at Modern Classic show. References: <1779653360.5671319.1547057431852.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1779653360.5671319.1547057431852@mail.yahoo.com> Well....mine aint great, so I don't qualify, but there are many who have good ones. I thought Geoff's Manxman was gonna be there. I look forward to seeing what else turns up.? -----Original Message----- From: Frank Mohr via DVNR To: DVNR Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2019 12:07 pm Subject: [dvnr] Fwd: Norton's at Modern Classic show. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: albert hartman > Date: January 9, 2019 at 8:29:03 AM EST > To: Dan Sellers , Frank Mohr > Subject: Norton's at Modern Classic show. > > We have zero Nortons for the Martin Modern Classics show in March. Please get the word out to our Norton group that we are actively looking for a few great bikes. What do you have? _______________________________________________ DVNR mailing list DVNR at mail.casano.com https://mailman.dudley.nu/mailman/listinfo/dvnr UNSUBSCRIBE: mail to DVNR-unsubscribe at mail.casano.com From kopecke1 at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 16:19:07 2019 From: kopecke1 at gmail.com (Ken Kopec) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 16:19:07 -0500 Subject: [dvnr] Fwd: 2019 Motorcycle Events Calendar References: Message-ID: <1C1F4D4C-CDCA-44B0-915F-D9A5D5AEFB80@gmail.com> Listing of motorcycle events from our friends at TSNR. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Mike T > Date: January 9, 2019 at 2:55:49 PM EST > To: Chuck > Cc: Alex Karahalios , "mike o'toole" , Ben English , Allan Tannenbaum , Ian Carroll , cassandrallj at hotmail.com, Chuck Norton , Commandovet at aol.com, Corvette74 at optonline.net, Frank Palmieri , Daniel Falgerho , Davrolaw at aol.com, fosters08753 at yahoo.com, Gtwaugh at aol.com, hoot6theyre3 at yahoo.com, "JCB500 at aol.com" , JeffRogan at optonline.net, jerreth13 at gmail.com, Jimmyd302 , John Keating , "" , klima at klimalaw.com, Kenneth Kopec , les14 at verizon.net, Magicsound at aol.com, "MReibman at reibmanweiner.com" , Will Myers , niammatt at cambridge.org, Marty , Old Toys , Phread C , roupellstreet , Stephen James , stephen marino , tbbike at optonline.net, themanfromars at gmail.com, tooldhenry at hotmail.com, villageanna at hotmail.com, Bill Morrison , Nina Iammatteo , bpiper59 at verizon.net > Subject: Re: 2019 Motorcycle Events Calendar > > Thanks for the listing. I will at long last be retired and able to make some of them! > > Mike Taglieri > >> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:07 PM Chuck wrote: >> Belated Happy New Year to all. >> >> Below is the list of events for 2019. >> Check the websites of any event you plan to attend for updates. (i.e., the dates for the Jampot Rallye are listed as "tentative" as of today, Jan 9, 2019). A couple of events did not update from last year, so I inserted the co-responding date or dates for this year. Check during the riding season to confirm. >> >> >> Obviously none of us can make it to all, or most of the events. We may even want to go somewhere else on a date that a rally or swapmeet is scheduled. >> >> I plan on riding to the "Gathering of the Nortons" at Washington's Crossing State Park and the "Jampot Rallye" at the Blackthorne in East Durham, NY. The International Norton Owners Association International Rally is hosted by the Michigan Chapter this year. Of course I'm planning on riding out to this event also and would hope to have the company of some members riding out. It will be good P.R for us since we are hosting the International Rally in 2020, at the Blackthorne. Google maps shows it to be a distance of 633 miles and take just under 10 hrs, if one takes I-80 for most of the way from New York City. Though doable in one day, with breaks for gas, water, food, etc its more realistically a 2 day ride. More if you want to ride on better roads, or see some other attactions. >> >> We will have to do some more riding and/or meeting upstate this year to get the lay of the land once again, in prepartion for next years rally. Also a summer party and BBQ is long overdue. Its been suggested we have a get together at Breezy Point. I think we have some members that live nearby (hint, hint), who can help organize that. >> >> >> >> >> Tri-State Norton Riders Events Calendar 2019 >> >> April >> >> Sunday April 28 2019 26th Annual The Gathering of the Nortons >> Washington?s Crossing State Park, PA http://www.dvnr.org/gallery/index.html >> >> May >> >> May 17-19, 2019 BMW 2019 Spring Fling Rally (starts 9am Friday) >> The Natural Bridge Hotel and Conference Center, >> 15 Appledore Lane, Natural Bridge, VA 24578 http://www.mortonsbmw.com/springfling_2017.htm >> >> Sunday May 19 2019 Classic Motorcycle Day >> new location, the Fireman?s Carnival Grounds just off I-70 in Mount Airy, Maryland, classicmotorcycleday.org/ >> >> Sunday May 26 2019 27th Annual British & Classic Motorcycle Show and Swap Meet at Singletary Rod & Gun Club in Oxford, MA. massbia.com >> >> June >> >> June 2, 2019 41st Annual British Motorcycle Meet 9am to 3pm (formerly ?Big Auburn?) >> Bolton Fairgrounds 318 Seven Bridges Road >> Route 117 Lancaster, MA www.britishmcmeet.com/britishmeet/index.html >> >> June 4 ? 8 Americade, Lake George, NY americade.com >> >> June 8 ? 16 95th Laconia Motorcycle Week, Laconia, NH http://laconiamcweek.com/ >> >> June 13 to 16 39th Annual Jampot Rallye at Blackthorne Resort (Weldon House) >> East Durham, NY jampotrallye.org >> >> June 15-16 Rhinebeck Grand National Meet 2019 rhinebecknationalmeet.com Dutchess County Fairgrounds,6550 Spring Brook Ave,Rhinebeck, New York 12572-3714 >> >> June 22-24 Triumph National Rally Oley Fairgrounds (formerly ?Triumph Come Home Rally?) 26 Jefferson St. Oley PA. triumphnationalrally.com >> >> June 24-27, 2019 Norton International Rally :Pure Norton, Pure Michigan >> Juniper Hills Campground, Brooklyn MI www.inoanorton.com/Events/index.html >> July >> >> Fri. Sat. Sun July5-7 Vintage Motorcycle Days Mid Ohio Mid Ohio Sports Car Course >> >> Lexington, OH midohio.com >> >> August >> >> Sunday, August 18 2019 34th annual BRIT JAM 2019! >> 9am ? 4:30pm Brit Jam Admission $10 Haddem Neck Fairgrounds, 26 Quarry Hill Road, (off Rt. 151) Haddem Neck, CT 06424 ctbritiron.org >> >> September >> >> Sun. Sep, 8, Larz Anderson European Motorcycle Day Lars Anderson Park >> larzanderson.org/lawnevents/emd/ >> >> Sun, Sept 15, 11:00 am?4:00 pm Queens Farm Antique Motorcycle Show >> Little Neck Parkway in Floral Park, Queens 11 AM ? 4PM www.queensfarm.org/events.html >> >> Sunday Sept 15 Sunday Italian MC Owners Meet, Hamilton Rod & Gun Club, 24 Hamilton Road, Sturbridge, Massachusetts 01566 www.imoc.website/rally >> >> October >> >> Oct 4-6 Barber Vintagefest Birmingham, AL www.barbermuseum.org/events/barber-vintage-festival/ >> 6030 BARBER MOTORSPORTSPARKWAY BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA 35094 >> 205.699.7275 >> >> Any Time Bike Museum Newburgh,NY. www.motorcyclepediamuseum.org/ >> >> >> Chuck Contrino >> President >> Tri-State Norton Riders >> 347.881.6490 From Robert.Norum at CNA.com Thu Jan 10 14:13:38 2019 From: Robert.Norum at CNA.com (Norum,Robert A.) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 19:13:38 +0000 Subject: [dvnr] Norton Owner Club - legal threat from ANIL Message-ID: <6AC70D9B0F58A6489C6505C3455A97B601D734B116@KAU1XM21.cna.com> From the NOC website - interesting and bizarre. Keep the rubber side down. Bob 2019 - From Tim Harrison I am bringing to your attention recent events which have potentially serious implications for our club. The issues revolve around a legal threat from Andover Norton International Limited (ANIL) and the framework under which we are organisationally established. The NOC was set up in 1959 by a group of enthusiasts at a meeting in Eric Oliver's Motorcycle shop. A set of rules and constitution were written and have been built upon over the decades since. We are what is known as an 'unincorporated body'. In effect, this means that the sole liability for the club rests with the members of the Executive Committee at the time. This has worked well in the past and encourages a friendly and co-operative way of running the club. In 1991, the NOC purchased a significant number of blueprints of Norton factory drawings from Joe Francis, a motorcycle dealer in South London. We have, since that time, kept the drawings safely and made one electronic copy because the condition of the paper drawings was deteriorating with age. The club initially received a request for certain drawings from ANIL. The Executive Committee was concerned that we should be even handed in our approach to suppliers and we were also considering commissioning the manufacture of the relevant parts ourselves. Members will be aware the club is under considerable pressure to get 'hard to come by' spares made. The drawings requested were not handed over to ANIL, although they were subsequently offered and declined. ANIL made claims to all of the drawings, the copyright and intellectual property rights, thereby challenging our right to own, copy or make parts from the drawings. The Club believes that our ownership of the drawings is clear. We are not in a position to know who owns the copyright and the intellectual property rights. We are advised that UK and European law entitles us to make parts but we do not, and have never stated, that the parts we commission are original or sold under the 'Norton' name. The Club has received solicitors' letters from two firms acting on behalf of ANIL,both of which threaten the Club with legal action. The normal possibilities would be to settle by agreement or to fight in Court. Our problem is that as an unincorporated body, any claim is against named members of the entire Executive Committee. They are therefore the only people who can reach a settlement and, quite frankly, this will be difficult to achieve. ANIL has offered an agreement which requires undertakings and commitments that in the future, the signatories may not be in a position to enforce. This leads to the issue of how we can best protect the current and future EC members and limit the liability of the Club. Following research and taking advice, the Executive Committee has concluded that the only way forward is to convert the Norton Owners Club into a limited liaibility trust or company. Accordingly, the Executive Committee will be submitting a formal proposal at the next AGM. It will not be the intention to remove any aspects of the Club's democracy. The NOC Constitution will be incorporated into the Articles of the new organisation; members should not notice any difference. The Executive Committee will be making the proposal purely to protect it's officers and their personal assets from the threat of legal action. There is absolutely no intention to change the club in any other way. We hope to be able to reach agreement with Andover Norton but this will require give and take and their recognition that we are, and wish to remain, a Club serving our members, not a commercial competitor. Tim Harrison Chairman NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments and appended messages, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any review, dissemination, distribution, copying, storage or other use of all or any portion of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message in its entirety. From ricochet_rider at yahoo.com Sat Jan 12 20:35:55 2019 From: ricochet_rider at yahoo.com (Tom Banks) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 20:35:55 -0500 Subject: [dvnr] Norton Owner Club - legal threat from ANIL In-Reply-To: <6AC70D9B0F58A6489C6505C3455A97B601D734B116@KAU1XM21.cna.com> References: <6AC70D9B0F58A6489C6505C3455A97B601D734B116@KAU1XM21.cna.com> Message-ID: Hello, everyone. I thought it in everyone?s interest to post this letter from a certain Mr Seifert, Director of Andover Norton, that Mr John Healy posted today in the Norton forum page at www.britbike.com and now we have another side of The Story. Cheers! Tom Banks Re: NOC "An important Announcement" Drawings held by the NOC Those of our customers who are members of the English ?Norton Owners Club? (?NOC?) may have seen ?An important Announcement? by the NOC?s chairman, Tim Harrison, in the club?s magazine ?Roadholder?. From the ?Announcement? you may have gotten the impression that Andover Norton (?AN?) has, out of the blue, attacked the NOC with lawyers to get hold of drawings the NOC reputedly bought from Joe Francis Motors in 1991. It is beneficial for the understanding of the situation to have all the facts, not just the careful selection of them given by Harrison. In May, 2015, Andover Norton acquired, in the asset sale of Mick Hemmings Motorcycles, casting equipment for Dominator cylinder barrels. We subsequently found that the party that had machined the barrels for the Hemmings declined to give us the computer programmes and jigs the Hemmings had paid this party for. After several months of fruitless discussions we terminated all dealings with that party and looked elsewhere for drawings. As an NOC member for forty years I knew about a stack of drawings the NOC had. We also happened to have a list of about a third of these drawings and, from this list, knew the drawings we needed to do the barrels were amongst them. I therefore approached Tim Harrison, chairman of the NOC, at our Open Day in July 2016(!) about a copy of the relevant drawings. He claimed this needed to be decided by the NOC committee. Though I did enquire again and again nothing came off it. So on 23rd March, 2017, our lawyers wrote formally to the NOC. Following this I was approached by committee members who talked me into speaking eye-to-eye instead of through lawyers. I, foolishly I must now say, agreed. In the following months a lot of email exchanges and talks took place during which a never-ending number of excuses were given why we could not have the drawings immediately, and the decision was postponed endlessly. There was always that ?next committee meeting next month? where a conclusion was promised to be made, but it never was. Researching the matter in the meantime I spoke to many people who played a role in the club at the time the drawings were bought, and also looked into the legal background of the copyright of the drawings. It became crystal clear the copyright was the property of Andover Norton, who had first bought the pre-Rotary Norton Spares Business from Norton Motors in 1991 and were irrevocably assigned the intellectual property on all Norton twin parts pre-2002 in a license agreement with Norton America LLC, to date the holder of the Norton trademarks, in 2003. Copies of these agreements were consequently supplied to the NOC committee. I tried to make the committee see reason one last time in May 2018, flying in from Munich especially to meet committee members Tim Harrison and Peter White in Andover. We agreed on a deal that gave enough benefit for the NOC for Tim Harrison to ?sell? it to the few reluctant members on the committee. My proposal encompassed a lot more than just a sum of money (5.000 Pounds) as claimed in the NOC notes. It offered the NOC, who had not made use of the drawings for over a quarter of a century, our assistance in manufacturing spares, be it the manufacture of forgings, castings, or getting parts machined or fabricated. They could make any single parts they wished. On twin parts, either we would make them if we were interested, or the NOC could make with our permission parts of no commercial interest to AN, or we would make a joint effort to manufacture. Again, a decision could not be reached by the committee, so, at the ?International Rallye? in Austria on 18th/19th August 2018 Tim Harrison and I discussed the matter yet again. The impression I got was that he suggested we should put legal pressure on the NOC to get the committee to reach a decision because he himself felt unable to. Which is what we did after over two years of being polite and reasonable with a club committee that hindered us to manufacture non-available spare parts for the benefit of their members, something the NOC had not managed to do with the drawings they wrongly thought were theirs to do so for 27 years. The offering of the drawings we needed that Tim Harrison cites in his ?Important Announcement? came on 9th September 2018, only after our lawyers had challenged the NOC. That is over two years after asking him and the NOC for help to make a non-available part from our own IP. What everybody needs to realise is that we have the interests of ALL Norton owners, whether they are members of the NOC and/or customers of Andover Norton, directly or through other sources, at heart. The idea is to keep Nortons, all Nortons, on the road for as long as people wish to proudly ride them. And to extend the range of parts available to Norton owners. AN are in the best position to do the latter as they already have the expertise, the experience, the procedures, the product liability insurance and the facilities. NOC, Limited or not, do not have any of these things and are in no position to arrange the manufacture of quality-assured parts. I let my NOC membership of forty years lapse because I could not continue to support a club that acts against the interests not only of its own members, but of all Norton owners worldwide. Please form your own opinion. Joe Seifert, Director, Andover Norton December 2018 > On Jan 10, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Norum,Robert A. via DVNR wrote: > > From the NOC website - interesting and bizarre. > > Keep the rubber side down. > > Bob > > > 2019 - From Tim Harrison > I am bringing to your attention recent events which have potentially serious implications for our club. The issues revolve around a legal threat from Andover Norton International Limited (ANIL) and the framework under which we are organisationally established. > The NOC was set up in 1959 by a group of enthusiasts at a meeting in Eric Oliver's Motorcycle shop. A set of rules and constitution were written and have been built upon over the decades since. We are what is known as an 'unincorporated body'. In effect, this means that the sole liability for the club rests with the members of the Executive Committee at the time. This has worked well in the past and encourages a friendly and co-operative way of running the club. > > In 1991, the NOC purchased a significant number of blueprints of Norton factory drawings from Joe Francis, a motorcycle dealer in South London. We have, since that time, kept the drawings safely and made one electronic copy because the condition of the paper drawings was deteriorating with age. > The club initially received a request for certain drawings from ANIL. The Executive Committee was concerned that we should be even handed in our approach to suppliers and we were also considering commissioning the manufacture of the relevant parts ourselves. > > Members will be aware the club is under considerable pressure to get 'hard to come by' spares made. The drawings requested were not handed over to ANIL, although they were subsequently offered and declined. > > ANIL made claims to all of the drawings, the copyright and intellectual property rights, thereby challenging our right to own, copy or make parts from the drawings. The Club believes that our ownership of the drawings is clear. We are not in a position to know who owns the copyright and the intellectual property rights. We are advised that UK and European law entitles us to make parts but we do not, and have never stated, that the parts we commission are original or sold under the 'Norton' name. > > The Club has received solicitors' letters from two firms acting on behalf of ANIL,both of which threaten the Club with legal action. The normal possibilities would be to settle by agreement or to fight in Court. Our problem is that as an unincorporated body, any claim is against named members of the entire Executive Committee. They are therefore the only people who can reach a settlement and, quite frankly, this will be difficult to achieve. ANIL has offered an agreement which requires undertakings and commitments that in the future, the signatories may not be in a position to enforce. This leads to the issue of how we can best protect the current and future EC members and limit the liability of the Club. > > Following research and taking advice, the Executive Committee has concluded that the only way forward is to convert the Norton Owners Club into a limited liaibility trust or company. Accordingly, the Executive Committee will be submitting a formal proposal at the next AGM. It will not be the intention to remove any aspects of the Club's democracy. The NOC Constitution will be incorporated into the Articles of the new organisation; members should not notice any difference. > > The Executive Committee will be making the proposal purely to protect it's officers and their personal assets from the threat of legal action. There is absolutely no intention to change the club in any other way. > > We hope to be able to reach agreement with Andover Norton but this will require give and take and their recognition that we are, and wish to remain, a Club serving our members, not a commercial competitor. > > Tim Harrison > Chairman > > > NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments and appended messages, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and legally privileged information. > If you are not the intended recipient, any review, dissemination, distribution, copying, storage or other use of all or any portion of this message is strictly prohibited. > If you received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message in its entirety. > _______________________________________________ > DVNR mailing list > DVNR at mail.casano.com > https://mailman.dudley.nu/mailman/listinfo/dvnr > UNSUBSCRIBE: mail to DVNR-unsubscribe at mail.casano.com From G_ROETENBERG at msn.com Wed Jan 16 18:56:24 2019 From: G_ROETENBERG at msn.com (GEORGE) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 23:56:24 +0000 Subject: [dvnr] Upcoming Meeting Message-ID: Norton Riders, Reminder that we have a meeting this Sunday 1/20/2019 at Bob & Tari Norum's at 276 Butterworth Lane Langhorne PA 19047 at 11AM. Tis' the season of swap meets: Potomac Vintage Riders? York Swap Meet York Fairgrounds Utz Arena The show hours are Sunday, January 27, 2018 8:00 AM to ? Neshaminy ACMA Sunday, Feb. 10, 2017 - Annual Swap meet at the Newportville Firehouse. 8:00 AM - ? Jam-On Productions Motorcycle SwapMeet & Shows Feb 8, 2019 ? Feb 10, 2019 at Maryland State Fairgrounds in Timonium. George [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png] Virus-free. www.avg.com From tari.norum.inoa at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 19:34:51 2019 From: tari.norum.inoa at gmail.com (Tari Norum) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 19:34:51 -0500 Subject: [dvnr] Upcoming Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob and I are looking forward to seeing you all on Sunday. Please let me know if any of you would like any Girl Scout cookies. They are $4 a box and I can have them here for you to take home with you. Let me know what you want and how many - cash only! On Wed, Jan 16, 2019, 6:57 PM GEORGE via DVNR Norton Riders, > > Reminder that we have a meeting this Sunday 1/20/2019 at Bob & Tari > Norum's at 276 Butterworth Lane Langhorne PA 19047 at 11AM. > > > Tis' the season of swap meets: > > Potomac Vintage Riders? York Swap Meet York Fairgrounds Utz Arena The show > hours are Sunday, January 27, 2018 8:00 AM to ? > > Neshaminy ACMA Sunday, Feb. 10, 2017 - Annual Swap meet at the > Newportville Firehouse. 8:00 AM - ? > > Jam-On Productions Motorcycle SwapMeet & Shows Feb 8, 2019 ? Feb 10, > 2019 at Maryland State Fairgrounds in Timonium. > > George > > [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png > ]< > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free. www.avg.com< > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > _______________________________________________ > DVNR mailing list > DVNR at mail.casano.com > https://mailman.dudley.nu/mailman/listinfo/dvnr > UNSUBSCRIBE: mail to DVNR-unsubscribe at mail.casano.com > From pdaloisio at thomasnet.com Sat Jan 19 17:56:23 2019 From: pdaloisio at thomasnet.com (Pat Daloisio) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 17:56:23 -0500 Subject: [dvnr] Upcoming Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: DVNR Members, If anyone owns a crankshaft bearing removal tool like the one shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l2ExO5v8R4...please bring it to Bob and Tari's this Sunday. I'm having a just a grand time this Saturday afternoon trying to coerce the old bearings off a Norton crankshaft. Use of this tool President George lent me https://www.harborfreight.com/large-bearing-separator-3979.html along with excessive use of a hammer and spittle riddled screaming have yet to produce any results. Looks like I'm going to need this https://www.harborfreight.com/bearing-separator-and-puller-set-62593.html or even better, this https://www.eastwood.com/fairmount-tools-12-piece-bearing-splitter-puller-kit.html?SRCCODE=PLA00020&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_PDGw_P63wIVTMDICh3v0QDEEAQYAyABEgKR4PD_BwE ...unless you have something similar I can use on Sunday. If you do...many thanks in advance. Pat On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 6:57 PM GEORGE via DVNR wrote: > Norton Riders, > > Reminder that we have a meeting this Sunday 1/20/2019 at Bob & Tari > Norum's at 276 Butterworth Lane Langhorne PA 19047 at 11AM. > > > Tis' the season of swap meets: > > Potomac Vintage Riders? York Swap Meet York Fairgrounds Utz Arena The show > hours are Sunday, January 27, 2018 8:00 AM to ? > > Neshaminy ACMA Sunday, Feb. 10, 2017 - Annual Swap meet at the > Newportville Firehouse. 8:00 AM - ? > > Jam-On Productions Motorcycle SwapMeet & Shows Feb 8, 2019 ? Feb 10, > 2019 at Maryland State Fairgrounds in Timonium. > > George > > [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png > ]< > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free. www.avg.com< > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > _______________________________________________ > DVNR mailing list > DVNR at mail.casano.com > https://mailman.dudley.nu/mailman/listinfo/dvnr > UNSUBSCRIBE: mail to DVNR-unsubscribe at mail.casano.com > -- *Pat Daloisio* Director of Financial Administration | Thomas? Thomasnet.com | #ThomasForIndustry [image: Thomas For Industry] From dsellerspa at verizon.net Sat Jan 19 19:14:11 2019 From: dsellerspa at verizon.net (Daniel Sellers) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 00:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [dvnr] Upcoming Meeting In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <838828628.454387.1547943251208@mail.yahoo.com> Pat I think I can find something like that in my shop, may take until tomorrow though. Let me ask you a serious question, the same one that I try to impress upon all shade tree mechanics, did you soak the bearing/shaft liberally with penetrating oil before you started. Think about times you tried to press a dry shaft into a dry hole. Friction of removal is even more when it hasn't moved in 60 years. I have a puller like your link #3. Heat, torch or even heat gun such as a paint removal heat gun does wonders. Molecules get very active when heated. Please keep the hammer away from the crankshaft. A few strikes in the wrong place will reduce it to scrap, especially the oil feed end of the shaft. I'm hoping the weather co operates in the AM. Looking forward to seeing everyone. I will have 2019 membership forms with me. cheerio Dan -----Original Message----- From: Pat Daloisio via DVNR To: GEORGE Cc: dvnr at casano.com Sent: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 5:57 pm Subject: Re: [dvnr] Upcoming Meeting DVNR Members, If anyone owns a crankshaft bearing removal tool like the one shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l2ExO5v8R4...please bring it to Bob and Tari's this Sunday. I'm having a just a grand time this Saturday afternoon trying to coerce the old bearings off a Norton crankshaft. Use of this tool President George lent me https://www.harborfreight.com/large-bearing-separator-3979.html along with excessive use of a hammer and spittle riddled screaming have yet to produce any results. Looks like I'm going to need this https://www.harborfreight.com/bearing-separator-and-puller-set-62593.html or even better, this https://www.eastwood.com/fairmount-tools-12-piece-bearing-splitter-puller-kit.html?SRCCODE=PLA00020&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_PDGw_P63wIVTMDICh3v0QDEEAQYAyABEgKR4PD_BwE ...unless you have something similar I can use on Sunday. If you do...many thanks in advance. Pat On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 6:57 PM GEORGE via DVNR wrote: > Norton Riders, > > Reminder that we have a meeting this Sunday 1/20/2019 at Bob? & Tari > Norum's at 276 Butterworth Lane Langhorne PA 19047 at 11AM. > > > Tis' the season of swap meets: > > Potomac Vintage Riders? York Swap Meet York Fairgrounds Utz Arena The show > hours are Sunday, January 27, 2018 8:00 AM to ? > > Neshaminy ACMA Sunday, Feb. 10, 2017 - Annual Swap meet at the > Newportville Firehouse. 8:00 AM - ? > >? Jam-On Productions Motorcycle SwapMeet & Shows? Feb 8, 2019? ? Feb 10, > 2019 at Maryland State Fairgrounds in Timonium. > > George > > [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png > ]< > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >? ? Virus-free. www.avg.com< > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > _______________________________________________ > DVNR mailing list > DVNR at mail.casano.com > https://mailman.dudley.nu/mailman/listinfo/dvnr > UNSUBSCRIBE: mail to DVNR-unsubscribe at mail.casano.com > -- *Pat Daloisio* Director of Financial Administration | Thomas? Thomasnet.com | #ThomasForIndustry [image: Thomas For Industry] _______________________________________________ DVNR mailing list DVNR at mail.casano.com https://mailman.dudley.nu/mailman/listinfo/dvnr UNSUBSCRIBE: mail to DVNR-unsubscribe at mail.casano.com From dsellerspa at verizon.net Fri Jan 25 21:59:21 2019 From: dsellerspa at verizon.net (Daniel Sellers) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 02:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [dvnr] DVNR January Meeting Report and more References: <540352366.1410651.1548471561616.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <540352366.1410651.1548471561616@mail.yahoo.com> Fellow DVNR Members Our January meeting has come and gone. I've attached a brief report on what I saw during the gathering. I think you will find the report enlightening. As you know, 2019 dues are now due. You can pay dues at any meeting. There are a few regular members who seem to have forgotten to pay dues during 2018 and will be dropped after this email. Delinquent 2018 dues: Chris Cabat Steve Doughty Tony Reed Robert Trent Meeting notes: In Feb we meet at Dave Behnken's in Bloomsburry NJ. Third Sunday as usual. Dan Sellers Treasurer / Membership Secretary -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DVNR January 2019 Meeting.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 18951 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bsafr at aol.com Sat Jan 26 09:55:09 2019 From: bsafr at aol.com (bsafr at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 14:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [dvnr] DVNR January Meeting Report and more References: <539109918.1543376.1548514509571.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <539109918.1543376.1548514509571@mail.yahoo.com> Dan, What a treat to read this email this morning. On my way to run a few errands and decided to check email - glad I did. Sounds like an entertaining tech session - way beyond what I would probably ever attempt - but Pat is undaunted. Sounds like he got it under control and I loved your description of the blob of goo jumping to the magnet. The stuff of sci-fi movies!!? Your description of Pat's effort reminded of the Stephen Ambrose book title - "Undaunted Courage" - somehow that needs to be played upon - "Undaunted Audacity", "Blindly Undaunted", something like that. Sorry I missed the meeting - I was put off by the weather and regret missing the opportunity to visit the Norums and sup on their victuals. Glad to see my name is not on the deadbeat list.? Yet. Hope to make the Feb meeting. Brian? -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Sellers via DVNR To: dvnr Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2019 10:00 pm Subject: [dvnr] DVNR January Meeting Report and more Fellow DVNR Members Our January meeting has come and gone. I've attached a brief report on what I saw during the gathering. I think you will find the report enlightening. As you know, 2019 dues are now due. You can pay dues at any meeting. There are a few regular members who seem to have forgotten to pay dues during 2018 and will be dropped after this email. Delinquent 2018 dues: Chris Cabat Steve Doughty Tony Reed Robert Trent Meeting notes: In Feb we meet at Dave Behnken's in Bloomsburry NJ. Third Sunday as usual. Dan Sellers Treasurer / Membership Secretary _______________________________________________ DVNR mailing list DVNR at mail.casano.com https://mailman.dudley.nu/mailman/listinfo/dvnr UNSUBSCRIBE: mail to DVNR-unsubscribe at mail.casano.com From wa2swo at hotmail.com Thu Jan 31 11:58:47 2019 From: wa2swo at hotmail.com (Bob Gilfillan) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 16:58:47 +0000 Subject: [dvnr] Moped Message-ID: Fellow members,My sons nephew is looking for a Moped.Wondering if anyone might have one,or know of one for sale.This could be the first step for him to be a Norton owner in the future.Thanks,Bob